When people ask me ‘is your husband home?’ (or variations on that theme), I correct them in the same irritating way I’ll hiss ‘Ms’ if asked whether I’m a ‘Miss or Mrs’. My partner and I aren’t married, and I used to think my initial burst of frustration when people asked for my ‘husband’ was because I didn’t like the assumption that all couples have to get married at some point. It’s not really that, though: what’s frustrating is how often I am asked – or expected – to defer to my male partner. As if he’s the CEO in our relationship, and I am merely his secretary.
My dude and I live together, and we own a house (not the WHOLE house, obviously, just a bit of the house – this is London and neither of us is Elon Musk). The owning of a house is an important fact because when you’re the boss of one, especially a rickety one like ours, every now and then bits of it start falling off. The boiler packs in, or the ceiling collapses, or you realise that the damp smell exists because there’s a fucking great hole in one of the drains acting as a kind of rainwater-funnel, channeling liquid directly into the brickwork of the cellar. No WONDER there are mushrooms growing down there.
Anyway.
Buying a home together, much like (I imagine) marriage and the decision to have children, is one of those life events where as a lefty couple you will suddenly find your happy bubble penetrated by all manner of sexist pricks. I’d forgotten what it was like, but I have come across this before. And I am going to rant in detail about it below. Before I start, though, it’s important for me to tell you two things:
- I am fully aware that the only reason I get to rant about this stuff is because I am incredibly fortunate – not everyone gets to buy a house with their partner, and the very fact that I do this/have this makes me incredibly, ridiculously lucky. None of the bad stuff outweighs my gratitude for the situation I’m in, but if the very fact of me sitting here with my mortgage and privilege is sick-making for you to begin with, me ranting about minor acts of everyday sexism may well annoy you even more so I implore you not to read on.
- I do not think that these tedious sexist comments are the most important issue facing society. They are simply annoying, and surprising, given how far it feels like we should have come in the last 10 years or so. I know also that other people get irritated by this shit too, and sometimes it’s fun to have a rant about it. Please feel free to contribute your own examples of household sexist douchebaggery in the comments and I will come and sympathise and be angry on your behalf.
Meet the double-glazed douchebag
When I first lived on my own, about 9 years ago, I called a couple of double glazing companies to ask if they’d come and look at my back door (ooh err). It was rotting to pieces, and had been picked up in the survey as something that Must Be Done when I moved in, or else. Having obtained one quote from a local tradesperson, I rang a Big Company to get a second quote. A guy in a shiny suit appeared and listed off a figure so large that I nearly fainted. So far, so entirely what you’d expect from a double-glazing company.
What happened next really threw me: when I told him his quote was too high, he immediately started packing up his things to leave. He didn’t haggle downwards, as you’d expect. He didn’t explain to me why his price was actually accurate. Instead he said:
“Look, love, no offence, but I don’t think you’re a serious buyer.”
I asked him why.
“Well you get me all the way out here, ask me for a quote, then tell me you’ve had other offers.”
Well, yes. As advised by every single consumer advice website I had ever read, and everyone I know who has ever bought double glazing.
“Maybe I should come back when your husband’s home.”
Reader: not only did I not have a husband, I didn’t even have a boyfriend! Imagine that! I was all adrift on my own, like a tiny little girl clutching a teddy bear and waiting for Daddy to rescue her. Tragic story, really, but that’s how it was. I told him I didn’t have a husband, and I also told him that I could more than afford the double glazing. I had a salaried job at the time, none of this ‘writer’ bollocks, and I’d saved my pennies so I could pay for it without taking out finance. Still he didn’t listen, he just left.
About a week later, I got a call from their head office, who were asking whether I’d like to take up the quote I’d been given. I said no and explained why: I didn’t think it was a serious quote, I thought it was deliberately high to try and put me off so the salesperson could get onto a better appointment more quickly. Probably one with someone’s husband, who’d be able to stump up the cash, rather than poor little womanly me, who gets paid in cupcakes and fairy dust. They said they’d send someone else round, and apologised profusely.
The next guy who showed up gave me a better quote – a realistic quote, which we then proceeded to haggle over for a bit. He was friendly and he did not ask where my husband was. He did, at one point, have to ‘call his boss’ – a trick almost all home improvement salespeople use to make you think that this already-pre-approved-by-Head-Office discount is, in fact, a generous favour on the part of the salesperson, so you should be grateful and sign on the dotted line immediately.
When he called his boss, and told him my name, through my awesome powers of deduction I worked out that the guy he was speaking to was the one who’d tried to stiff me the week before. I’m not sure if it was the awkward, embarrassed look on New Salesperson’s face, or the fact that I could literally hear Old Salesperson yelling down the phone:
“HER? Oh don’t bother, she’s a bitch. I went round there last week and she’s a fucking timewaster.”
That was 9 years ago. And from my recent forays into home repairs, I can tell you that sadly absolutely fuck-all has changed.
His and hers sexism
When my boyfriend told a tradesperson that one day in the far-distant future we’d like to redo the kitchen, because he really wants a new cooker, the tradesperson pointed to me and said:
“Whaddaya mean you want a cooker? You’ve got one already – it’s HER!”
When we needed to get some work done, and I asked for a slightly-less-than-cheapest option because I’d researched and felt it was worth the cash:
“Spending his money are we? Why not, eh?”
It doesn’t just happen with my partner – a few months’ ago I went to a DIY shop with my Dad, and I asked someone where I could get a certain kind of wood. The guy looked at me blankly for about two seconds, then turned to my Dad and asked what it would be used for.
There are plenty more examples. And on top of the weird little comments, there is outright rudeness of people who – having been given my email address – then ask for his as well ‘so we can send stuff to both of you.’ This has never – EVER – happened the other way round. Or those whose first question is whether my husband is home, regardless of the fact that – so far – the only person they’ve spoken to is me. The odd looks and occasional actual comments when I’ve handed over my debit card to pay for things, rather than batting my eyelids at my partner and expecting him to pay.
Who wears the trousers?
This kind of sexism annoys me more, and is likely a million times more noticeable, because in our relationship I take on the lion’s share of the planning and organisation. I’m the one ringing builders for quotes. I pop to Homebase to get some mortar to repair cracks. I navigate the ridiculously confusing boiler cover terms and conditions to work out if we can call them. I’m the one who has to talk to Thames Water about getting meters installed. He rarely does this shit. It’s partly because the very thought of planning for the future makes him panicky and stressed, partly because I’m more efficient at it but partly because… *drum roll* …
Society often expects women to take on the majority of the household admin.
He has grown up learning that it’s the women who plan and book appointments and remember that the boiler’s fucked. I have grown up learning that – much like the household chores – if I don’t do this stuff it simply won’t get done, so I need to roll my fucking sleeves up and get on with it. If tradespeople want to play into gendered stereotypes, surely it’d be more accurate for them to ask him if his wife is at home, and refuse to sell him double glazing without my approval. After all, it’ll be me picking up the phone and arranging when the fitters can come and do the work; me who takes time off to let them in and look after them and discuss the details; me who has to write complaint letters if they fuck things up, or chase for a refund if they never arrive at all.
It’s usually clear – or at least it should be – that I do the majority of this work. I’ll be the person who’s spoken to them first, the one who’s researched it and has the info, and the one who can answer their questions with something other than a shrug. My ‘husband’ is not more knowledgeable and capable than me, and nor is he the Keeper Of The Money. I demonstrate this in every interaction with people who sell us stuff, in many cases laying it out explicitly in the same hiss with which I correct ‘Mrs’ to ‘Ms’ on the phone. I write the emails, make the calls, arrange payment, answer questions, let people into the house, schedule things in our calendar and every other conceivable thing that needs doing in order to get this dodgy thing fixed. So what exactly do they need from him that they cannot get from me?
It’s permission, isn’t it?
No one needs my permission on the rare occasions when he contacts a tradesperson. Though he’s had the occasional jokes about what I might think or say about what he’s doing, it has never been a question. Never has he been asked ‘is your wife home?’ with the same urgent tone that implies this deal can only go through with my say-so. They’ll talk to me, and let me plan and organise and phone and email and budget and chase and prepare… but then I’m the secretary, aren’t I? My partner’s the CEO.
When people ask ‘where’s your husband?’ they aren’t looking for consensus between the two of us – they just want to know that there’s a responsible man somewhere in the picture, and he’s keeping an eye on my work.
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Uggghh. This happened to me twice in the same week recently. I own a house (alone!), and while I was out front talking to some tradesdudes about getting my gutter repaired, a gentleman friend popped round for some tea. Gutter dudes immediately start addressing all comments to my friend, even though it was obvious he didn’t even live here.
Then, at work there was a delay to a contract we were issuing. Finance guy comes up to apologise and check if this is OK… addressing my male underling instead of me, his boss. RAGE!
Argh! That is so frustrating and so RUDE! Grrrrr.
I’ve had various people, even in professional contexts, insist that my “real” surname is actually his, as if not changing my name on marriage was some kind of flighty whim.
“Double glazed douchebag” is a marvellous insult.
OMG this makes me so angry. I’m sorry you have had to deal with people being such arseholes.
My other half has owned the house we live in for well over a decade. It is hers and always has been, up until recently when she put my name on the deeds. Now all the companies that used to send mail to her send it to me or insist on giving her my surname when we’re not married. We haven’t instructed anyone to do this but everyone has magically defaulted to it for reasons that I can’t fathom.
Oh my word that is utterly enraging. I’ve occasionally wanted to say ‘right I’m just not working with/hiring anyone who behaves like this’ but quickly given up when realising so many people do it. Or it’s only after you’ve handed deposit over that they crack out the 1950s attitude…
When I moved to England from the US, I needed some driving lessons so I could learn local conventions, make sure I understood local laws, and eventually pass the UK driving test. I had been driving in the US for something like 25 years at the time. The first driving instructor I talked to about this led off with a joke about “women drivers”. Obviously I didn’t go near him again. What kind of teacher would undermine his student by evoking stereotype threat? The thought of being stuck in the car with someone who had expressed contempt for me and my abilities based only on me being female was a great big “no”.
That’s awful! What an absolute cock! Good for you for ditching him, I hope he’s learned a lesson since.
On the subject of permission, I used to work at a car dealership where men who came in wanting to buy a car weren’t taken seriously if they didn’t have their wife present. They could literally put the deposit down and the salesman would not take them seriously until they came with their wife- as they thought the wife would talk them out of it/not like the car he picked… they would even write on the paperwork ‘BMWW’ (brave man without wife!)
It says a WHOLE lot about both genders, I think, too much to even go in to! But a slightly different spin :)
On a similar note- men rarely accept car advice from me, and even outright ask to ‘speak to a man’ sometimes… it really gets my goat!
That’s really interesting! I have never driven so I think I miss out on a lot of the car salesroom twattery – there were lots of examples of this on Twitter the other day. I can’t quite work out if I should be pleased that it sometimes happens the other way round or equally annoyed – after all, it should still be possible for people to make individual decisions when in a relationship, and it’s not up to any salesperson to decide who the ‘right’ person is to choose!
If you haven’t seen Katherine Ryan’s show, you should. She has t-shirt merchandise you could buy that says “Decision-maker”
‘…She also recounts a conversation with the tradesman recruited to decorate her flat who, on seeing Katherine and Violet’s designs, asks: “When will the decision-maker be home?”’
Full review here: https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2017/nov/06/katherine-ryan-review-churchill-theatre-bromley-glitter-room
Thanks! I will check it out!
I chose to change my surname to share the same surname as my husband. Now our joint bank account post only comes to his address (which he hasn’t changed from his old address 🤦♀️). Apparently I don’t count any more!!!!!
OMG argh, that is so frustrating and so entirely unnecessary. That must take MORE admin work than just… not being sexist in the first place.
I guess it’s a step up that telemarketers used to open by asking me if I made the decisions about [blank] in my household.
I’ve had a weird counterpart phenomenon where I see things in women’s dating profiles like “I don’t mind if you have kids, as long as you pay your child support and are engaged in their lives.” I don’t pay child support…primary custody okay? Yeesh.
Ugh yeah I’ve never come across that before but now my rage senses are tingling – not just the assumption that you’d only *not* have primary custody, but the very thinly veiled assumption that you’d only be paying child support grudgingly. Grr.
Wow. And I thought my story was bad. I used to live in a big city and was mostly sheltered from this kind of nonsense. Then we moved to a small town, and within the first week I experienced my first “small town backwardness”. The service person my husband’s company scheduled to put together our bed asked to borrow my husband’s tool bag. Sorry, you can’t borrow his tools, but you CAN borrow the tools we both contributed on the bed that I put together when we first bought it.
This is a great post.
I have rented the same flat for six years–four with my ex boyfriend, one with a male housemate, and one with my boyfriend. The owner of the property is a woman, and though she is now married the flat is hers alone. And over the course of six years, the only time she’s contacted me is when I’ve been between housemates and it has been me alone, otherwise she defers to the man. I’ve even asked her to text me as well so I know what’s going on, and she was just confused as to why and refused.
Two from me.
1) I rang up to book honeymoon flights and upgrades with my airmiles, using my credit card. British Airways switched the lead passenger to be my husband. I am not the only person I know to have experienced this with them.
2) I took my male partner with me while I test drove a car, having been the one to ring and book it, and the only one to ask questions. I had him with me because he was staying that weekend and I didn’t have time to go during the week. As I pulled back into the forecourt, the accompanying salesguy said something about us “needing to go home to talk about it”. My partner immediately piped up with “it’s her car, I don’t drive” while I said “I’ve made my decision and I’ll take it”. If it hadn’t been exactly what I wanted for a reasonably good px on my old one, they’d have lost the sale for that comment. As it was, they ended up doing a lot of work under warranty because the salesman clearly hadn’t taken my questions like “when was it last serviced?” seriously. So when my approved used Audi needed hundred pounds of routine maintenance in the first couple of months, they had to do the 80 mile round trip to pick it up and leave me a courtesy car. Three times. Tossers. I’ve still got the car nearly 6 years later. *The car* is fine. The service… Yeah.
One reason why all of this is fucking ridiculous is becuase it is, more often than not, the woman who has the say on what is bought with the money spent – no matter whose name is on the bank account. Mr Man wants car A, Mrs Woman points out that car A is incompatible with their lifestyle due to the juniors and Mr Man pays out for a car which suits the needs of the whole family.
Women, have historically, driven the purchasing decision in relationships and the organising of all the things. Sales people who dont appreciate this fact are idiots. And if they are also rude then they are rude idiots and who needs folk like that teying to sell you something!
I’m a man, and i’ve been doing all of the organising with tradespeople whilst we redecorate. Whenever i say that i’ll get back to them after i’ve spoken with my partner, i get some odd comments. Plenty of tradespeople seem very surprised that I would check with a woman before confirming electrical work, or work with the boiler or whatever else.
“I thought you’d be the decision maker on this”, “She’s got you under her thumb hasn’t she?”
Hiring tradespeople isn’t cheap, this is a joint decision! I’m not going to be pressured into accepting a quote just to prove my manliness.
I can’t believe the ‘women drivers’ thing is still on the go. As a man I sometimes hear this in reference, and say… “oh yes, women drivers. The ones who take longer to learn, have a slightly lower first time pass rate, but who subsequently kill and injure fewer people and animals, and have more clean licences. Than men. Oh, sorry that’s us isn’t it.”